5/13/09

Thinking Allowed

Over the past several years it's become quite clear that people (myself included) don't like to think. Whenever we're challenged on an issue we'd rather have someone else do the thinking for us and tell us the answer. I can't seem to do that anymore.

I praise YAHWEH that He has opened my eyes and given me ears to hear! I thank Him for waking me up and continuing to call me out of the paganism I was in, my Egypt if you will, ...professing christendom! The problem is that the professing evangelical church is just as steeped in the traditions of men as Catholicism and even Judaism, which all reject the pure Law of the LORD for their own doctrines and commandments.

Yeshua (Jesus) declared that the traditions of men make the commandments of God of no effect in people's lives (Mark 7:9-13).

One thing that got me "thinking" lately is the return of our LORD. Especially concerning that of the pre-tribulation rapture theory. Actually I've been considering this for a few years, but as of late there has been a renewed interest in my spirit concerning THE event of history...coming soon! While, according to the Scripture, it seems as though we are raptured, or caught up, to meet the LORD, we have to examine what HE says in HIS Word to know "when" this will happen.

One thing we must first examine is "What is the pre-tribulation rapture theory?" and what is the origin of this theory? Is it in the Scriptures or not?

The theory says that Christ will come back, in secret, to bring the church up to meet Him in the air. The dead will rise first, and then the living. All this will take place in the twinkling of an eye before the seven year tribulation starts. Christ and all His saints will then return at the end of the seven years and reign for a thousand years. This would suggest that there is not just a Second Coming of Christ, but a Third Coming as well! This is the premise of the theory.

The word "Rapture" is not found in the Bible. It was invented by the reasoning that Christ will "take up" or "catch away" His church.

What is the origin?

I have not yet found any substantiation in the Scriptures for a pre-tribulation rapture (which we will look at in a moment). And throughout centuries of church history and writings, there is nowhere to be found, any thoughts on a "pre-tribulation" rapture.

It wasn't until the 1830's that the teaching of the rapture came to prominence. Nowhere before then was it found. Not in any culture or writing was there found any discussion of the rapture theory, particularly the pre-tribulation view.

In the 1820's a Presbyterian minister by the name of Edward Irving began teaching a message of the restoration of the spiritual gifts mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12-14, which are discussed before Paul talks about the return of the Lord in 15. This was unusual for the time and it prompted some to consider what Irving was suggesting. That the time of the Lord's return was near, and so the spiritual gifts must begin to manifest themselves, essentially. Irving was an impressive speaker and a great deal of excitment accompanied his messages. Soon people began experiencing the "gifts" which led to an assumption that Irving's messages where true, and thus Christ would be returning soon. Because of these "gifts", the Presbyterian Church dismissed Irving in 1832 and his group then established themselves as the Catholic Apostolic Church. As a result, some historians refer to Edward Irving as the "father of modern Pentecostalism".

Two years before Irving's dismissal, people in the lowlands of Scotland were experiencing the supposed outpouring of the Spirit according to Irving's teachings, with phenomena such as speaking in "tongues". On one particular evening the Holy Spirit was said to have rested on a Miss Margaret MacDonald while she was at home ill. It is said that while she was dangerously sick she experienced the power of the Spirit for several hours. She experienced manifestations of "mingled prophecy and vision", leaving her mind in an altered state as she went through intense visionary activity.

*After having read her written utterances it seems as though Miss MacDonald saw, or held to, a post-trib. rapture. Though many have thought that she gave birth to the pre-trib. rapture view (myself included), it doesn't appear to be so. In fact, it was John Darby who, three years earlier in 1827, first taught the pre-tribulation rapture theory.

Having heard of the strange happenings, Darby and Samuel Tragelles visited the area around Edward Irving's church and found the "gifts" that were being manifested to be demonic, in their own opinion. It seems unlikely that Darby gained his pre-trib. views from Margaret MacDonald or any other person involved at that time. Given that he didn't seem to think that what was occuring was from God, but from the devil.

Perhaps MacDonald's vision was from the Lord, perhaps not, but her statement "This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will he shaken to the very centre." seems to point out that she did not believe in a pre-trib. rapture but a post-trib. rapture.

So how did Darby come to his conclusion of a pre-trib. rapture? It seems as though he couldn't reconcile the relationship between Israel and the church. This led to a fabrication of the rapture theory and the origin of Dispensationalism. Members of Darby's church, the Plymouth Brethren, called his secret rapture theory "unbiblical" and even he had supposedly lingering doubts as late as 1845.

It makes sense that Darby taught what he did. After all, it is tradition that blinds us to the truth of God's Word. John Darby, like other theologians, did not hold to the truth of the Scriptures, but instead believed the lie. He could not understand the view of Israel and the church because he did not have the foundation of the Torah of God. Without the foundation, we have nothing to stand on and will then believe what the enemy perpetrates.*

Regardless of who really started or popularized the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine, the point is that it doesn't seem to line up with Scripture and that's what we will look at.

The Scriptural pattern seems to be that Christ returns, pronounces judgment, and divides the wicked from the righteous (Matthew 24:29-31; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54; Matthew 13:37-43, 25:31-33; 1 Thessalonians 4:16; Acts 1:11; Hebrews 9:27-28). There is no secret gathering in the air seven years before His next return. We are seemingly gathered to Him when He returns the Second time.

The pattern in the bible seems consistant, that the Lord never took His people "out of" the world in order to save them. He always took them "through" His judgments.

Noah was preserved through the Flood. The children of Israel were kept through the plagues. The prophets were never taken out, in fact they were all killed. Only Enoch and Elijah were mentioned as being taken away. But there's question as to whether God actually took them to heaven to be with Him from that point on. The situation with Noah interests me, considering people always look to Noah to support their view of the rapture being pre-trib.! The Flood was God's judgment on the whole earth, a picture of the judgment that's coming. The first by water and the second will be by fire. Noah was told to build an ark and God took him through the Flood...not out of it, but through it. It makes no sense to me how they can look at it that way. I guess when you see things how you want to see them, you'll end up believing anything.

Proponents of the pre-trib. rapture theory also look to
1 Thessalonians 5:9 which says,

"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,"

I guess I must be missing something here. How does this support their view? God has not appointed us to wrath. This is a true statement. But the wrath Paul is speaking of here is that of eternal condemnation. Salvation isn't temporary, but eternal, if we hold fast our confession of faith. Jesus won't just save us from one event or circumstance, but from an eternity in hell, if we hold fast to HIM! Hallelujah!

Another verse held on to by pre-tribbers is in Revelation where John is told "Come up here" by the angel. Actually it says,

"...Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this."
-Revelation 4:1b


John was told to "come up" to heaven so that he might see more of the vision which he was being shown and the events taking place in heaven as well as on earth. He was to see the perspective from the Lord's dwelling place and what would come upon the world. This does not substantiate the church being raptured out.

Some say that the Philadelphian church is us today and when John writes of it in Revelation 3, this is a representation of the church that will be raptured out.

"Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole earth, to test those who dwell on the earth."
-Revelation 3:10


The key here is the word "keep" and its meaning.

KEEP
G5083
τηρέω
tēreō
tay-reh'-o
From τηρός teros (a watch; perhaps akin to G2334); to guard (from loss or injury, properly by keeping the eye upon; and thus differing from G5442, which is properly to prevent escaping;
and from G2892, which implies a fortress or full military lines of apparatus), that is, to note (a prophecy; figuratively to fulfil a command); by implication to detain (in custody; figuratively to maintain); by extension to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively to keep unmarried): - hold fast, keep (-er), (ob-, pre-, re) serve, watch.

The Lord is not saying that He will keep, or take away, the church from the hour of trial, but that He will guard it, keep a watchful eye on it. He is a mighty fortress and our shield (Psalm 144:1-2). As the above definition shows, He will even prevent escaping.

The church will go through the hour of trial that will come upon the whole earth, but under YAHWEH's protection!

Later in Revelation we read two interesting passages, both of which deal with believers who "keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ". (Revelation 12:17 & 14:12)

Given the context of chapter 12 it would seem as though those who keep God's commandments and have the faith, or testimony, of Jesus are not simply believing Jews, but believing Gentiles as well. While this might be those who come to faith after a supposed pre-trib. rapture, it would make more sense that it is those who knew the commandments of the LORD and have already placed their faith in Jesus, thereby heeding His warning to them in Matthew 24. and resisting the lies of the wicked one and the antichrist, also called the man of lawlessness.

Speaking of Matthew 24, let's look at what Messiah Himself says.

After Jesus' disciples ask Him what will be the sign of His coming and of the end of the age, He responds first with this statement,

"Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many."
-Matthew 24:4-5


I never realized that Messiah answered with this first for a specific reason...and that He spoke of this throughout His exhortation to them. False messiahs and false prophets have come and will continue to come, leading up to the antichrist and false prophet that will deceive many on the earth. Yeshua (Jesus) was giving them (and us?) warning about the enemy's deceitful plotting. That has been the devil's intentions from the beginning...to deceive God's people into trusting in themselves or someone else rather than the LORD Himself. But there is only ONE Lord and when He returns it will be as when the lighting flashes from the east to the west, across the whole earth. No other messiah could or will do that. No other prophet will lead people to the truth of God's Word except Messiah Yeshua! The enemy will even work miracles that seem so convincing to the lawless that they could almost deceive the elect if it were possible.

Then in verses 29 through 31 we read,

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days
the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then
all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man
coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they will gather together His elect from the four winds,
from one end of heaven to the other."
-Matthew 24:29-31


Immediately after the tribulation! Not before, but after. It mentions nothing of Him bringing the elect back with Him (after some supposed pre-trib. rapture and seven years in heaven with Him), but rather, gathering them to Himself at that time.

The Rapture certainly is a subject worth studying and I am continuing to do just that. I don't have all the answers, and IF there is a rapture before the tribulation, then GREAT! I won't complain! But if that's not the case and we are here through the tribulation then we'd better be ready to hold fast to the LORD our God.

Wouldn't it be just like the enemy to get us to believe that we'll be raptured out before the tribulation starts, so that when it does people won't think that it could possibly be the tribulation, because "We won't be here during the tribulation" they'll be thinking.

Thinking...that's the key...but thinking according to the Scriptures.

8 comments:

Christine Vandor said...

YAY!!! Preach it, brother!

We found out about Miss McDonald a year ago or so...thanks for the info about the birth of pentecostalism, what sources are you using? I'd like to read it for myself, too.

Blessings,

Christine

Jason said...

Actually I have to make a correction (I've already made it in the article marked by a *) concerning the info on Margaret MacDonald.
Having read her utterances a little further, it seems she held to a post trib. view rather than a pre trib. view.
The real originator of the "secret rapture" theory appears to be John Darby himself 3 years earlier.
Only the Bible can give us the answers to the rapture anyway, but as far as the origin of the pre-trib rapture view - Darby seems to be the one.
Here's one source that's a quick read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Macdonald_(Prophecy)#cite_note-7

be blessed sis!

Jason

Christine Vandor said...

Thanks Jason!

Anonymous said...

What an interesting blog! I, too, have been researching the pretrib origin and have journalist/historian Dave MacPherson's bestselling, 300-page book "The Rapture Plot" which I obtained from Armageddon Books online. He is reputed to be the leading expert on the same origin and has spent about 40 years focusing on it. Google "Scholars Weigh My Research" to see what other scholars think of his findings. BTW, some of his most shocking articles on the web include "Pretrib Rapture Diehards," "Deceiving and Being Deceived," "X-Raying Margaret," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" (this last one now being featured on the "Powered by Christ Ministries" website). I would love to get your collective reactions to his discoveries. Love in Christ, Alice

Jason said...

Alice,
Thanks for leaving your thoughts.
Obviously, Mr. MacPherson has spent much more time than I on the pre-trib theory.
It seems pretty clear in Scripture, anyway, that we are here through the tribulation and not taken out beforehand.
As far as his findings on Margaret MacDonald and John Darby, I'm not so sure that I agree. It seems Darby is the one who solely propagated this false teaching on a pre-trib. rapture given the actual utterances of Miss MacDonald and Darby's alleged preaching of the subject three years before her vision.
But as I already said, men's teachings and visions are one thing, but the Word of God is sure and true and will always give us the answers!

Be blessed and encouraged in the LORD, Alice.

Jason

jono vandor said...

So if Margaret MacDonald is resposible for the pre-tribulation rapture theory... can we refer to it as the "McRapture"? :)

Anonymous said...

With apologies to the well-known burger chain, at MacDonald's she sees it all for you! Seriously, she saw only part of the church caught up before the Antichrist and his reign which means that she was a partial rapturist. Even the late John Walvoord states in his books that partial rapturists are pretribs (see his 1976 and 1979 books). Partial rapturists always refer to the ones left behind after the rapture as the "church" which is how MM referred to the ones left on earth after "one taken and the other left." Google "X-Raying Margaret" for more details. She began teaching this in the spring of 1830. In Dec. of 1830 Darby was still defending posttrib in a published article and didn't clearly teach pretrib until 1839. Read "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" (as mentioned by Alice) to see why Ice etc. are not reliable commentators on pretrib rapturism's history. Lord bless you all. Ned

Jason said...

I'm sure glad the Scriptures are clearer than the history books of man! :)